What exactly did Starbucks do wrong? The men were trespassing
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Date: April 16th, 2018 9:27 AM
Author: ''"'''"'''"'
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Date: April 16th, 2018 9:32 AM Author: askav atop a damn daddy (askav)
Don't you understand? Black bodies don't live in white bantustans anymore. Black bodies occupy spaces, and the spaces they occupy are black spaces. Yes, that means Starbucks. Yes, we unmake white supremacy fueled by the Master's beans.
Black spaces bustle, they vibrate, they're full of life, and culture, and art, and history, and beauty. White spaces are none of those things--white spaces are the neutral canvas onto which other spaces project.
So too with Starbucks. Black bodies make Starbucks a black space. You see a refusal to purchase, I see an act of agency. You see an argument, I see a barbaric yawp. You see lawlessness, I see sprezzatura. I am in a black space; you are merely in a disrupted white space you can no longer control.
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Date: April 16th, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,..,.:.,.,.,..,.,..':.,.,.,.,,,
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Date: April 16th, 2018 9:51 AM Author: we never change, do we
Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross defended the actions of officers in the video saying his officers "did absolutely nothing wrong."
In a statement on Facebook Live, Ross said that Starbucks employees called 911 to report a trespassing complaint.
The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross said.
Officers responded and asked the men three times "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross said.
The men were taken to a police station and released when it became clear Starbucks didn't want to press charges.
"They did a service that they were called to do," Ross said of the officers. "And if you think about it logically, that if a business calls and they say that someone is here that I no longer wish to be in my business, (officers) now have a legal obligation to carry out their duties. And they did just that."
Ross, who is black, referenced his own experiences while making his case, saying, "As an African-American male, I am very aware of implicit bias."
"We are committed to fair and unbiased policing and anything less than that will not be tolerated in this department."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950515&forum_id=2#35850164) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 11:37 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
I’ve asked to use the bathroom at a Starbucks without buying something beforehand.
Of course, if they said no, I wouldn’t turn it into some kind of protest.
That said, they’ve never said no, maybe because I’m (((white)))
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950515&forum_id=2#35850891) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 9:53 AM Author: lobster at sea
Michelle Saahene witnessed the entire event, as she’d been at the Starbucks for nearly an hour.
After the two men were refused the bathroom, they just sat at a table silently and played with their phones as they waited for a friend, Saahene told NBC News.
Saahene said that a white man sitting next to her had been at the Starbucks for 30 minutes without making a purchase and a jogger came in and used the bathroom without making a purchase.
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Date: April 16th, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
The critical question here is is two-fold: 1) How long were the men in the Starbucks before being asked to leave? 2) Is asking individuals who do not buy anything part of Starbucks store policy, or was this something the manager opted for on her own accord?
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Date: April 16th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
You've missed the point. The point is whether or not this is standard operating procedures for all Starbucks stores, or was this something the manager decided to do on her own. It matters.
If whites regularly hang around the store without buying anything and aren't asked to leave, there's an issue.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950515&forum_id=2#35850791) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
Apparently, you're the only guy in the room who doesn't "get it."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950515&forum_id=2#35850811) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 11:28 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
Starbucks disagrees.
Starbucks - 1
You - 0
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950515&forum_id=2#35850828) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: .,.,,..,.,,.,.,:,,:,..,,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
these were clearly loiterers though. why are you arguing this point? it's irrelevant
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Date: April 16th, 2018 11:46 AM
Author: .,.,,..,.,,.,.,:,,:,..,,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
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